Self, Made "The People You Keep" with Nathan Roestandy

June 2026

The people you choose shape the life you build. But choosing well is rarely as clean as it looks.

In this episode of Self, Made, Michelle and Nathalie sit down with Nathan Roestandy, CEO and Co-Founder of Nafas, for a candid conversation on judgment, trust, and the people we let into our lives. From co-founders and investors to friends, partners, and the inner circle that stays with us over time, it’s a conversation about how we decide who is right for us, what we miss when we default to what’s familiar, and what changes when the consequences become harder to ignore. They get into the signals that matter, the misleading ones we learn to outgrow, and the moments when what we say we want does not match the decisions we make.

Beyond simple advice on “choosing your circle,” the episode unpacks something more complicated: how our standards evolve across work, friendship, and love, and why becoming self-made is not just about what you build, but who you build with.

Nathan's Linkedin: https://linkedin.com/in/nathan-roestandy-a20bbb144

About Nafas: https://nafas.com/id-en